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can i upgrade xl202 cpu?

dclmun — Sun, 24 Aug 2008 15:42:51 GMT

can i upgrade the cpu from xl202??
i want to change the faster cpu
Please HELP

Re: can i upgrade xl202 cpu?

Blencogo — Sun, 24 Aug 2008 20:02:36 GMT

In theory you can install any socket 775 processor but other restrictions in the hardware may prevent the increase in performance you would expect.

Core 2 Duo E8500 3.16GHz or Core 2 Quad Q9550 2.83GHz should fit but I would check to make sure and also check the cooling arrangements are adequate. I am not sure if it will be worth it though.

Re: can i upgrade xl202 cpu?

fremaas — Mon, 25 Aug 2008 14:42:39 GMT

Hello,

I make a topic recently with almost the same question but I still not receive any answer!
I believe that is not possible to upgrade with a CPU new generation that burn in 45 nano because
the motherboard is too old. When I upgrade my other PC 1 year ago with the CPU E6850, I need to
upgrade my BIOS of my Asus P5K Deluxe because the CPU was not supported with the old BIOS.
Even that the motherboard was release 3 months earlier! So, I think that the motherboard can only supported
CPU of the same generation of the original but wichone can be install, I don't know and I hope that someone can
help us!

Gladiateur555

Re: can i upgrade xl202 cpu?

dclmun — Mon, 25 Aug 2008 15:53:26 GMT

Looking foward to hear from you soon!!!!

Re: can i upgrade xl202 cpu?

dclmun — Tue, 26 Aug 2008 15:22:07 GMT

I hv try to upgrade to E7200..........but can't boot the bios.........................
anybody help??

Re: can i upgrade xl202 cpu?

fremaas — Tue, 26 Aug 2008 19:41:15 GMT

Hello,

I'm pretty much sure that it can't be works because the motherboard doesn't support new CPU burn in 45nm.
The motherboard is 2 years old, almost 3! So in my opinion, you can only use the CPU of the same generation than the E6300. The E6400 works on other VGX, normally it will works with yours. At the same period, there was released the E6600 (2,40 GHz) and the E6700 (2,67 GHz). I don't know if they works but I'm also intersting to have an official Sony answer! I just remenber that I make a computer for my brother 1 year ago with a E6600 CPU, so I will try it one day on my VGX-XL201 and I tell you if it works!

A+
Gladiateur555

Re: can i upgrade xl202 cpu?

ITTroll — Tue, 26 Aug 2008 20:58:28 GMT

I think the official Sony answer will be this is not a user upgradable part so we are not going to tell you. I think they only sanction memory and hard drive upgrades performed by the end user.

My guess would also be that anything up to the E6700 will be recognised by the BIOS as they are basically the same CPU.

Re: can i upgrade xl202 cpu?

dclmun — Thu, 28 Aug 2008 13:37:35 GMT

Good NEWS!!!!
It can support E6700!!!!! works great!!!!
HOPE can help you, brother!!

Re: can i upgrade xl202 cpu?

fremaas — Fri, 29 Aug 2008 13:02:15 GMT

Very interesting this news!

I want also upgrade my CPU and I would like to try the E6600 from my brother computer.
Now, I know that the E6700 works so I think that I'm going to purchase one on eBay!
Thanks for your information! By the way, is the E6700 produce more heat that the original CPU?
Did you heard more the fan than before or not? Thanks for feedback!

Gladiateur555

Re: can i upgrade xl202 cpu?

ITTroll — Fri, 29 Aug 2008 16:32:09 GMT

That is interesting news. The 6300, 6600 and 6700 all have the same voltage range and a TDP of 65W. Hopefully that means they produce roughly the same heat.

Re: can i upgrade xl202 cpu?

dclmun — Fri, 29 Aug 2008 16:48:00 GMT

i think the heat is more than E6400, but not too much!!!
the fan speeds.....i thinkas same as before!!!
by the way, i know you also want to upgrade your graphic card, any idea???

Re: can i upgrade xl202 cpu?

fremaas — Sat, 30 Aug 2008 17:09:05 GMT

Hi,

Thanks for feedback! For the graphic card upgrade I thought first to use the all new 9600GT but it doesn't work with the original power supply! Not enough power and the card need a power connector that is not avalaible on the power supply! A new power supply with the same size will be very difficult to find I think!

The second problem with this card is that is not a passive card. With this performance we will suppose that it will be very hot and in the same time the fan will turn very fast and...with some noise! I don't have any idea if the heatsink from the orginal 7600GT can be adjust on this card like IT Troll do with the 8500GT.

So for my computer, I'm going to update CPU next mounth and normally at the same time I will replace the hard disk by 2 Samsung F1 640 GB in Raid 0. There are the best sound/price/capacity choice for the moment (in my opinion). For the choice of my graphic card upgrate I think that I will take a 8500GT like IT Troll because it possible to adjust the original heatsink with small modification. I'm just waiting is feedback when he upgrade his VGX with blu-ray player to know if the card works fine in this job!

A+
Gladiateur555

Re: can i upgrade xl202 cpu?

ITTroll — Mon, 01 Sep 2008 09:59:13 GMT

i think the heat is more than E6400, but not too much!!!

Could you run CoreTemp on your XL202 whilst the CPu is under load so we can compare the temperature?
http://www.alcpu.com/CoreTemp/

I'm just waiting is feedback when he upgrade his VGX with blu-ray player to know if the card works fine in this job!

This may be some time whilst I wait for a cheap slot loader. But I have read good reports of the 8500GT + Blu-Ray + TotalMedia Theatre.

Re: can i upgrade xl202 cpu?

dclmun — Mon, 01 Sep 2008 15:17:12 GMT

Tj. Max: 85'c
Core #0: 45'c
Core #1: 45'c

Re: can i upgrade xl202 cpu?

ITTroll — Mon, 01 Sep 2008 20:17:01 GMT

Many thanks for doing that. My 6300 is currently sat at 42'c so your temps are very respectable.

Re: can i upgrade xl202 cpu?

GavMack — Fri, 05 Sep 2008 15:42:02 GMT

I bought a used E6700 on ebay to upgrade my 301 to the 302 spec CPU for 65 quid, rather cheaper than buying one when new. Like many other Vista boxes it's a worthwhile upgrade to a 4Mb Conroe chip over the lower clocked speed 2Mb cache 6300 model, it feels far more responsive in all areas than the 10 percent the Vista rating claims, I'd say 15-20pc. Operating the Media Control plug in to control subtitles and audio streams while playing HD X264 files in Vista Media Center doesn't stutter any more which was a mild annoyance with the E6300.

CPU temp is 44 degrees which is impressive - but I reckon that's thanks to using Arctic Silver thermal paste.

Re: can i upgrade xl202 cpu?

ITTroll — Wed, 10 Sep 2008 19:25:31 GMT

I've just completed an E6700 upgrade on my XL201. It went very smoothly and was quiet an easy upgrade compared to the modding I had to do on my graphics card. My temperatures have actually dropped! After watching a DVD, CoreTemp was reporting 34'C compared to the 42'C I was getting with the E6300. I can only put this down to the minimal application of Arctic Silver I gave it compared to the gunk that the E6300 was smothered in.

Re: can i upgrade xl202 cpu?

ITTroll — Mon, 15 Sep 2008 20:54:57 GMT

Just a warning to anyone planning on upgrading their CPU, changing your CPU will break your Digital Rights Management (DRM). Luckily none of my music collection or recorded TV (Freeview) are protected and so they are fine. However my media streaming (Windows Media Player Network Sharing Service) did stop working until I performed a manual DRM reset. If you have protected music or premium channel TV recordings proceed very carefully or you will lose them! More details here:

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/891664
http://www.microsoft.com/windows/windowsmedia/player/faq/drm.mspx#q11_4

Re: can i upgrade xl202 cpu?

fremaas — Wed, 17 Sep 2008 13:01:35 GMT

Hello everybody!

It's done !!! I just buy a E6700 CPU on eBay and I'm waiting for the delivery! I was decided after I read all of your message and feedback about it. Now, I'm planning to change the hardisk inside (a 500 GB Maxtor very noisy!) by two Samsung F1 640 GB in Raid 0. I think it will be fast and silent! In the same time, I will buy the MSI 8500 GT like IT Troll. By the way, I didn't know the exact size of the power supply. Do you think that this one will be fit in the frame?

http://www.directron.com/m6400.html

Thanks for your feedback!
Gladiateur555

Re: can i upgrade xl202 cpu?

mouniros — Sun, 21 Sep 2008 22:20:06 GMT

Hello everybody!

It's done !!! I just buy a E6700 CPU on eBay and I'm waiting for the delivery! I was decided after I read all of your message and feedback about it. Now, I'm planning to change the hardisk inside (a 500 GB Maxtor very noisy!) by two Samsung F1 640 GB in Raid 0. I think it will be fast and silent! In the same time, I will buy the MSI 8500 GT like IT Troll. By the way, I didn't know the exact size of the power supply. Do you think that this one will be fit in the frame?

http://www.directron.com/m6400.html 

Thanks for your feedback!
Gladiateur555

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